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How to silence Geese?
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K. S.
2008-04-03 14:55:00 UTC
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OK. I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.
Besides:
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi

Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?

PS: We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day either.

-Ken
Sergio Sanmiguel
2008-04-03 15:13:50 UTC
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OK.  I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.  
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS:  We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day  either.
-Ken
Get a (trained) golden retriever to scare them off...

~
s
Sergio Sanmiguel
2008-04-03 15:15:50 UTC
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Post by Sergio Sanmiguel
PS:  We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day  either.
-Ken
Get a (trained) golden retriever to scare them off...
~
s
Sorry, Why cant You move them?
K. S.
2008-04-03 15:24:26 UTC
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In article
Post by Sergio Sanmiguel
Post by Sergio Sanmiguel
PS:  We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day  either.
-Ken
Get a (trained) golden retriever to scare them off...
~
s
Sorry, Why cant You move them?
City park for only part of the day. I was told "nope."

Eric's popcorn idea might be the ticket...or Courtney's hypnotist idea.
What local are they?
-Ken
a***@bellsouth.net
2008-04-03 15:38:22 UTC
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Post by K. S.
In article
Post by Sergio Sanmiguel
Post by Sergio Sanmiguel
PS:  We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day  either.
-Ken
Get a (trained) golden retriever to scare them off...
~
s
Sorry, Why cant You move them?
City park for only part of the day.  I was told "nope."
Eric's popcorn idea might be the ticket...or Courtney's hypnotist idea.  
What local are they?
-Ken
Trust me on this one. Been there and done that. Ducks/geese/seagulls/
are not stupid, they will always follow a free meal.

On a recent shoot on the beach here we needed to have seagulls flying
thru the shot. We had a PA with a bag of popcorn standing just out of
frame luring the seagulls into frame. After about 30 seconds of free
popcorn we had every gull on Miami Beach flying in and out of the
shot.

Eric
John Williamson
2008-04-03 15:15:29 UTC
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Post by K. S.
OK. I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS: We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day either.
Borrow a tame eagle from somewhere, & do a bit of flight training until
they shut up or go away?

Unless they're tame geese, of course.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.
a***@bellsouth.net
2008-04-03 15:15:55 UTC
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OK.  I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.  
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS:  We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day  either.
-Ken
Have a PA with a large bag of popcorn lure them far away from where
you're shooting. Seriously, geese/ducks don't make noise when they're
eating.


Eric
Courtney Goodin
2008-04-03 15:16:35 UTC
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Post by K. S.
OK. I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS: We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day either.
-Ken
To work within your constraints, there are only 2 solutions.
1. Choose another location
2. Record as best you can and do ADR or repeat the takes enough so you can
cut around the honks.

What kind of answer would expect. Do you think there is some type of Goose
Hypnotist who can put them in a silent trance?

By the way you will have the same problem if you shoot next to the Dog Pound
or at the end of the runway at LAX.

---_Courtney
Steve King
2008-04-03 15:38:50 UTC
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"Courtney Goodin" <***@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:nx6Jj.31175$***@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
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| What kind of answer would expect. Do you think there is some type of
Goose
| Hypnotist who can put them in a silent trance?
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| By the way you will have the same problem if you shoot next to the Dog
Pound
| or at the end of the runway at LAX.

There are geese next to the dog pound and at LAX? ;-)

Steve King
Sergio Sanmiguel
2008-04-03 15:45:25 UTC
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On Apr 3, 10:38 am, "Steve King"
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| What kind of answer would expect.  Do you think there is some type of
Goose
| Hypnotist who can put them in a silent trance?
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| By the way you will have the same problem if you shoot next to the Dog
Pound
| or at the end of the runway at LAX.
There are geese next to the dog pound and at LAX?  ;-)
Steve King
Get them real food snacks approved by the Park authorities... You ant
want to get them sick or they'll come after you.
~
Serg
a***@bellsouth.net
2008-04-03 15:57:02 UTC
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On Apr 3, 11:38 am, "Steve King"
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| What kind of answer would expect.  Do you think there is some type of
Goose
| Hypnotist who can put them in a silent trance?
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| By the way you will have the same problem if you shoot next to the Dog
Pound
| or at the end of the runway at LAX.
There are geese next to the dog pound and at LAX?  ;-)
Steve King
Oh yeah! Let me explain the logic of that. The dogs kill the geese and
the airlines food service department comes along and...........well
you get the picture I'm sure. Just don't order the goose liver snack.


Eric
Douglas Tourtelot
2008-04-03 16:06:55 UTC
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This surely sounds like a locations issue to me. Let 'em know you have a
problem and go sit back down in your chair.

D.

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On Apr 3, 11:38 am, "Steve King"
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| What kind of answer would expect. Do you think there is some type of
Goose
| Hypnotist who can put them in a silent trance?
|
| By the way you will have the same problem if you shoot next to the Dog
Pound
| or at the end of the runway at LAX.
There are geese next to the dog pound and at LAX? ;-)
Steve King
Oh yeah! Let me explain the logic of that. The dogs kill the geese and
the airlines food service department comes along and...........well
you get the picture I'm sure. Just don't order the goose liver snack.


Eric
D***@gmail.com
2008-04-03 16:26:52 UTC
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Post by a***@bellsouth.net
Oh yeah! Let me explain the logic of that. The dogs kill the geese and
the airlines food service department comes along and...........well
you get the picture I'm sure. Just don't order the goose liver snack.
Eric
Wow, when did the airlines start feeding passengers again,
(I forgot, sound dept. travels 1st class...)
next thing you know, media rate for excess will be re-en-stated ~ lol

Robert
a***@bellsouth.net
2008-04-03 15:21:30 UTC
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OK.  I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.  
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS:  We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day  either.
-Ken
OTOH, it's not a sound problem, it's a location problem. Whoever
choose that location should be responsible for making it work.


Eric
Jay Rose
2008-04-03 16:01:18 UTC
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"Let's not waste time worrying about that. I know a guy in post who has
a plug-in that can take them right out" -- DP
--
Jay Rose CAS
tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line.
Steve King
2008-04-03 16:37:16 UTC
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"Jay Rose" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:2008040312011816807-***@nowherecom...
| "Let's not waste time worrying about that. I know a guy in post who has
| a plug-in that can take them right out" -- DP
| Jay Rose CAS
| tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
| email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line.

You just put in goose honks out of phase. Right?

Steve King
EricWallace
2008-04-03 17:36:08 UTC
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I was on an ultra low budget feature where the one of the producers
got rid of a goose by spraying it with a fire extinguisher.
Fortunately it was the old water kind and not the CO2 dust cloud kind.

-e
Jay Rose
2008-04-03 17:37:54 UTC
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Post by Steve King
You just put in goose honks out of phase. Right?
Well, you'd have to lav each goose separately so you could compute the
appropriate delay at the dialog mic, but sure...

Or try this: a honking loudspeaker has a resonance somewhere around 2k.
So just start with a 2k dip, and tune until the geese disappear.
--
Jay Rose CAS
tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line.
h***@audiotheater.com
2008-04-03 18:23:12 UTC
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I would try the feeding route, as geese have a very special way of
getting back at you
if you try to scare them off. It's a mess to clean up. <G>
t***@hotmail.com
2008-04-03 19:18:45 UTC
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Post by h***@audiotheater.com
I would try the feeding route, as geese have a very special way of
getting back at you
if you try to scare them off. It's a mess to clean up. <G>
I was on this shoot and we were shooting on a man made lake, there
must have been 5000 geese. Anyways one of the stunt man in a boat
decided to try and scare them off. So now we had 5000 geese in the air
and probably being 4 times louder. The only thing I figured out to do
( we were shooting at night) was to turn one of the huge lights that
was on a scissor lift and shine it out on the water at the geese,
believe or not it pretty much shut them up enough to work. Still it
was a small scene with out much dialog, Man was that location
disgusting so much goose shit every ware. SICK
johnpaul215
2008-04-03 21:07:24 UTC
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OK.  I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.  
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS:  We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day  either.
-Ken
I don't know how reliable it is, but we have a lot of Canadian Geese
around here (Philadelphia) as suburban sprawl goes on. Some people get
a decoy goose (or a few) and lay them on their sides around the pond
(or whatever). *supposedly* geese seeing a few seemingly dead geese
really irks them, and they will go elsewhere. If that fails, i would
try crackers/bread even though the municipality probably frowns on
feeding them. If it's just for a few hours, it shouldn't register as
an easy meal spot for years to come. I know Philly discourages people
from feeding them, because if the food is too easy, they will stop
migrating.

as for dogs, i always heard lots of peanut butter on some bread will
busy them for a while.

airplanes.... oh man. I worked on a short that was shooting on a
sunday afternoon/evening near a small airplane airport (Cesna-type
prop planes etc) and the field we were in was the loop they used to
line up for landing. The short only was shooting on Sundays, and by
the time we realized how bad it was we had no time to move (daylight
and all that). we just had to juggle shots based on what was coming
over the horizon. fortunately there was not a ton of dialog, and we
all had a good sense of humor about it. Of course when the location
was scouted, it just happened to be at a time that maybe one airplane
came past. One of those things that was nobody's fault and you just
have to roll with it and laugh.

-johnpaul
G. John Garrett, C.A.S
2008-04-08 04:36:34 UTC
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Post by johnpaul215
airplanes.... oh man. I worked on a short that was shooting on a
sunday afternoon/evening near a small airplane airport (Cesna-type
prop planes etc) and the field we were in was the loop they used to
line up for landing. The short only was shooting on Sundays, and by
the time we realized how bad it was we had no time to move (daylight
and all that). we just had to juggle shots based on what was coming
over the horizon. fortunately there was not a ton of dialog, and we
all had a good sense of humor about it. Of course when the location
was scouted, it just happened to be at a time that maybe one airplane
came past. One of those things that was nobody's fault and you just
have to roll with it and laugh.
-johnpaul
I did some days on a film about the American Revolution. They wanted to be all
authentic and chose a field in Lexington where big battles had actually taken
place....220 years ago. Washington rides up to read the Declaration of
Independence to the Minutemen....about 600 feet off the end of runway 4. It was
a nice calm day and all the doctors were out flying their Mooneys. Good times.....

John

Brent Lestage, CAS
2008-04-03 21:40:39 UTC
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OK.  I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.  
Look, it's all very simple...

Just have the actors all dress in goose costumes and honk loudly while
saying their lines. No one will be the wiser. :-D
--
Brent
Mike Handler
2008-04-03 22:06:36 UTC
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In New Jersey, where it is illegal to harass migratory birds (with
high fines attached), large corporations with big campuses and ponds
hire dog trainers with golden retrievers or other water-friendly dogs
to come out a few times a week to run their dogs around the property.

Maybe a morning visit by a friendly pointer would do the trick.
sb
2008-04-03 23:13:37 UTC
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You know a friendly cameraperson?

sb
Post by Mike Handler
Maybe a morning visit by a friendly pointer would do the trick.
a***@bellsouth.net
2008-04-03 23:50:27 UTC
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Post by sb
You know a friendly cameraperson?
sb
Maybe a morning visit by a friendly pointer would do the trick.- Hide quoted text -
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I know it was a serious question but this thread has to have some of
the funniest answers I've ever seen on RAMPS.


Eric
Eddy Robinson
2008-04-04 02:58:39 UTC
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Forget it. They're chatty, not like ducks.

On the off-chance that you warned the producer about this beforehand,
this is the perfect moment to say 'I told you so'. If they're not
totally out of control, get them on camera and let the audience figure
it out - once they see the geese then they'll accept the noise. If
it's a comedy scene this might actually enhance it.

Meantime, do what I do - take the actors off to another part of the
park and do three or four readings of the scene together while they're
wrapping the camera or something. Unless the dialog is very involved
that's usually enough for a decent editor to salvage the scene and a
lot less stress than trying to ADR it in 3 months time.
Carey Carlan
2008-04-05 03:05:06 UTC
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Post by K. S.
OK. I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS: We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day either.
-Ken
Duck tape?
Douglas Tourtelot
2008-04-05 03:13:50 UTC
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Post by Carey Carlan
Post by K. S.
OK. I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS: We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day either.
-Ken
Duck tape?
Douglas Tourtelot
2008-04-05 03:14:16 UTC
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No man, get it right! That only works on ducks.

D.
Post by Carey Carlan
Post by K. S.
OK. I know I'm asking for it, so let it fly.
Try a shotgun
ring their necks
Feed them mentos and pepsi
Does anyone have any serious ideas how to shoot next to a pond full of
geese and keep the little bastards quiet?
PS: We can't have them moved to someplace else for the day either.
-Ken
Duck tape?
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